How did you meet each other?

Buck: How the hell did we meet?
Selene: Don’t you remember? I was your ring bearer. And I lost the ring. See, it’s all slumber party stuff.
Buck: That’s when we were just becoming friends. We used to go over to my ex’s house and watch Melrose Place with all the lesbians.
I felt so out of place, but somehow Selene was hooked up with them – and you’re not even
a lesbian, are you?
Selene: No. I used to be, though… well, still kind of am. No, not a lesbian.
Buck: What are you?
Selene: I’m straight/queer acting.
Buck: You’re just a fag hag!
Selene: I’m a lez hag as equally as I am a fag hag. Alright, I’m just a fucking hag.

Did you start working on projects together right away?

Buck: No, we just became friends and hung out. I think we became really close during my break-up with my ex-wife. Selene was really there for me at the time.
Selene: I used to work for Buck’s ex-wife,
in her dungeon.
Buck: That’s right, you were the phone lady.
Selene: I was the receptionist.
Buck: How did you answer the phone?
Selene: I can’t even remember! [Buck laughs, and Selene pauses to adopt a sultry and seductive tone.] “Hello. I want you to explore this phone call with me. You are sitting down right now, attempting to make an appointment… but I shall not let you cross the Gates of Mordor!”
Buck: Then she’d take their name and phone number. Selene was very good.
Selene: It was like working in a dentist’s office – just making appointments.
Buck: To get your ass beat.
What was the strangest night you’ve ever
spent together?
Buck: We’re getting old. If it’s past ten at
night, we just hit the sack. One year I took Selene to Miss Exotic World when she was competing in it. I was sort of her bodyguard. People were tripping out, and everyone was afraid to talk to her because of me.
Selene: Yes, it was before I was legal. My parents signed consent to allow Buck to escort me. I had a teacher’s permission slip [laughs]!
I was doing a number under my first burlesque name, which lasted about two seconds. It was Starlet O’Hara – totally lame.
Buck: That’s so drag queen.
Selene: I am a drag queen. Hello honey… sisters… work it… own it!

Was the elderly Dixie Evans performing at the time?

Buck: Yeah, Dixie was there. Selene and I spent the night in a hotel room together, and that’s when Selene told me I wasn’t allowed to fart. So I said, “Look I fart a lot, so you’re gonna have to get over it.” She was so mad at me because I was letting rip all night.
Selene: It may sound funny, but Buck’s farts are no joke. But I was strong in my stance. I said, “Listen, there’s more than one person in this room. I’m gagging! Why should I be forced to dry-heave because you can’t hold it in?”
Buck: We went out for dinner at this cheesy desert hotel in the middle of nowhere. It was really creepy and they had a lounge filled
with families and all this fucked-up food.
Selene: Everyone was staring at us so hard. All the moms were freaking out.
Buck: They had no idea what to make of us. People automatically assume we’re a couple. It’s funny, people act really strange around us.
Selene: Duh! They freak out cause we’re such a sideshow!
Are people generally nice and respectful?
Buck: People always look, but they don’t know how to deal with it.
Selene: The guilt eats them alive.
Buck: It’s hilarious, and I think that’s the reason Selene and I relate so well. As far as I’m concerned, people don’t have a clue who I am unless they’ve met me. But if I go to the men’s shower in the gym, just like every other guy, they freak out or they think I have a really small penis and are mortified because of that – a small penis is the worst thing that could ever happen to a man. I think it’s even worse than having a pussy, honestly. They make the same sorts of faces that people make when they see Selene.

So are you such friends because you share an understanding of being an outsider?

Buck: Sure. It’s not necessarily the whole reason, but it’s definitely part of the reason. Selene tells me things that she can’t speak to anyone else about, simply because they can’t relate to it. And that’s where I come from. I can tell you about being a female and changing to a male and you’ll want to listen, but you won’t feel it – you won’t know it – whereas Selene feels this and knows it because we’re in very similar circumstances.
Selene: Buck and I genuinely speak each other’s language. I’ve met many people in my life with some sort of disability or condition, but I never really related to them. My lifestyle is considered outside-the-margin, although, if people get to know me, they see I’m just a normal dork.

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